Spawnkilling

harmony

30.08.2006, 19:54 Today i get a wunderfull message: Zitat:Let me explain. You warned me for doing an arti OUTside ( well. you cant do it inside spawn anyway) enemy spawn. Fair. I can live with that, even tho its not spawnkill it could be a red zone. Next maps I see enemies die in front of their spawn at oasis by means of your arti.. At supply you do exactly the same as i did. I find this strange.. You warn others to be kicked/banned whatever.. but youre doing the same stuff.. and getiing away with it cuz youre the admin? Very wrong imho.. try not to warn others to be be kicked when theyre doing the same stuff youre doing. I know perfectly well whats allowed and whats not.. so therefore I find it strange in the first place that I was warned at Supply. To be banned?? LOL.. common :o Do you understand that people including me find it odd that youre warning others for the stuff you do too? React pls This is just a question / matter, no offense or anything

so i want to tell you something about that: on blitzkrieg #fo has decided together with all players that there is no spawnkilling allowed with heavy weapons (including arti certainly). we have red zones for that. all admins and referees know this zones and, sure you will all understand this, from referee to referee this zones are a little differently . if someone plant arti directly in front of a spawnpoint he will be warned, than kick or ban. if players that all the day play on blitzkriegservers plant airstrikes in spawn, shoot with panzer or flamer in spawn and so on they will get instantly a kick or ban cause they certainly now the rules. certainly i used a greyzone, but i never will warn player theiy do the same. you, my friend, have spawnkilled obviously. and dont say we do the same on any maps. i never will spawnkill. also to say that fo members kick or ban every player they want. we pay for OUR servers and we determine the rules. i hope this give you clarity. be cool instantly... so far...

|SC|Smasher

30.08.2006, 20:35 There are some player(names are in my memorys-i hope ;)) They do spawnkills,when they arent admins or referees on the server. And they know that they do spawnkills and they know the rules cus they play many times on Blitzkrieg. Citation: "Rules are here to break tham" (german-better ;)-Regeln sind da um gebrochen zu werden.) "Nobody can kick me.So i do spawnkills" And they use the chance to do spawnkills cus no judges ;) are online. And it doesnt help if i say spawnkills arent allowed with BIG FAT RED FONT xD. I tk him but after to many complains.....u know. ;) The other thing:not all player know what Red Zones and where Red Zones are. But if some warn them,they must understand it. What i will say u. If u play on the Blitzkrieg all is fine. But if u leave Blitz the "Action" begin. And #fo-Admins are in my eyes good admins.Played on some other servers e.g. GMC...they cant kick aimboter.And they are some many GMC admins on the Server.

cr33p

31.08.2006, 10:00 Yeah smasher is right. I'm online for quite some time and when there are no admins you see some "big" players spawnkilling (i wont tell who). I have 1 quesion though cause i dont know if it's spawnkilling or not. In the map Wurzburg radar, allies capture the main bunker and have destroyed the main gate. Now they spawn in bunker and run directly outside to the main gate. Is it spawnkilling when u shoot in their tunnel with a panzer? A guy got kicked for doing this, but i remember fred saying to me that it isn't spawnkilling when u have other escape routes. And in this case the allies can escape through other routes. So was it really spawnkilling? and what bothered me even more was after the admin kicked the guy for doing that, the admin left and another guy started using the panzer doing the same thing. <_< greetz /cr33p

fred

31.08.2006, 10:14 The redzones vary from map to map. At radar I consider it spawnkilling to fire panzer into the tunnel leading to the main gate. And why wont u give up names. U come here and complain about spawn killing when admin is not online, our only chance of knowing who did what and when is if u guys tell us so we can watch them more closely. To get a spawnkilling free server the players also have to take responsability. If another player is spawnkilling: Tell admin / ref! and give names. I often see people shouting in mainchat: SK SK kick him. but no name..... We never kick because someone tells us to. Only when we see it our selfs. If everyone chips in we can get a great server. :)

cr33p

31.08.2006, 10:25 Zitat:Originally posted by fred@Donnerstag, 31 August 2006 11:14 The redzones vary from map to map. At radar I consider it spawnkilling to fire panzer into the tunnel leading to the main gate. And why wont u give up names. U come here and complain about spawn killing when admin is not online, our only chance of knowing who did what and when is if u guys tell us so we can watch them more closely. If everyone chips in we can get a great server. :)

If i tell i feel like a rat... :( But ok, when admins arent online and blackwolf has a panzer he wont refuse a spawnkilling. There are others too, but i dont remember their names because they are more difficult. I'll wright them down next time. and when i see a guy spawnkilling online i tell. I just discovered the amazing thing of private messaging. :P greetz /cr33p

.Mk_

31.08.2006, 11:20 Hallo! :)

bz$.

31.08.2006, 19:00 the quote above is mostly my PM; so i feel free to defend it :P I dont need stuff like we pay for it, so we decide. Rules are rules: simple > respect them or leave imo. Goes for me as well as it goes for another player. I agree on the question about several routes from spawn. If the opponent bombards one exit, you can always use another. pretty simple; altho loads of players dont think so obviously. But like mentioned above: each exit has a red zone. On Blitz they do apparently. So spamming a red zone = spawnkilling. All the above are clear and simple; and I don't mind getting a warning if I place an arti outside an exit on purpose or just in a "carried-away" mood. You're right: it's a red zone or exit and I broke a rule. What I don't get or find disturbing is that someone warns for me stuff like this (which he has a right to obviously) and few minutes later I see the same thing happening (not the exact spot but exactly the same situation. To go into my PM: I broke a rule on Supply or Battery (could be mistaken), but I see the same thingie > namely an arti in front of spawn on Oasis. If i'm free to name who it was : Payback. You can understand my jaw dropped to my feet. WTF! I'm getting warned and he does exactly the same. Obviously, as mentioned above, it wasnt on purpose, he was probably into the game etc.. but it's pretty frustrating to me in this case. Im not picking a fight or anything, it was merely a frustration I wanted to clear. That you put it on the forum (which I didnt to be polite), I can live with that; altho I think that if someone sends you a PM, you should be answering by means of PM. Guess that's another discussionpoint :P In this case it's a fairly good thing; to make clear once and for all: CREATE A POST PLEASE!!!! in which you describe those red zones. So people can read them on the forum and never have any excuse whatsoever to start a debate (like mine ;) ) or ignore it on the server. No hard feelings; I enjoy playing on Blitz very much ( Its the only server I play at the moment :) ) and I appreciate all the effort you guys at FO put into it. Thumbs up! B) yours truly, bz$. :D

Holgi

31.08.2006, 19:47 Zitat:CREATE A POST PLEASE!!!! in which you describe those red zones. So people can read them on the forum and never have any excuse whatsoever to start a debate (like mine ;) ) or ignore it on the server.

or even better: draw the redzones in the little map opened by G (on my pc) and in the limbo menu saw it on other servers positive points: - EVERYBODY knows where the zones are! - referees got a fact as a base - any discussion further would be wiped out negative points: - more work for fo guys. especially now its shit, because they work on the server. holger

|SC|Smasher

31.08.2006, 20:01 They musnt work for Red Zones. Just copy the files from eft//Fun Server and put it into Blitz. Many other Server use this red Zones maps for example Hirnot or Hirnlos( [!!!]). And this Red zones are correct.

bz$.

31.08.2006, 20:40 good idea : pictures say it all :) To be perfectly honest: I never heard of any red zones. I always kept to the "rules" of the Clanbase and Warleagues' crews; which are imo, the basic standard for all. After a lot of years (from ET's start) those thingies grew into the game, so therefore it's sometimes hard for me to do or don't somethings which are or are not allowed on e.g. ETPub servers. So.. pictures would be great; I even offer to help create some. To be clear finally: it isnt my intention to whine about Blitz' rules or admin for that matter. If this was implied by any means; I apologize. Seiten:1234